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Kryton13
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This game just got fun...

Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:01 pm

I am going to preface what i say here by saying that i was looking at all the recent patches and getting super angry about all the potential exploits and problems, along with everyone else, but since some crazy stuff that happened on our server last night i have actually come to enjoy what has happened and think i can actually see some clever design decisions from Lillith.

So first thing is guard towers. they are potentially exploitable in that you can capture large parts of the map just by putting guard towers on them and to be honest that is a very powerful use of them. However they have one BIG downside - they are easy as heck to siege and they have a nice amount of resources to raid. Last night i managed to raid approx 400k of each basic and 2k of each rare resource from going around raiding towers. Now people can revenge you back but as far as i am aware if you just hit guard towers then you don't go on the revenge list - only the normal house one - so you can just pick small houses to raid OR

This next point is to talk about the new revenge feature. It being reduced to 3 days is nice but not super important. What makes revenge acceptable is that it is now super super cheap to use linari to shield for the duration. People have not talked enough about just how cheap it is now to shield with the changes and it is massive.

So now there are options for low powered players to raid around the place if they are clever, whales have the option to revenge attack so they get to do something BUT they can only destroy walls not your resources - so you can still play the game. Also being in the capitol lets you now farm void properly which is legit a big improvement. Not being able to rob carts is nasty but again i can see how this is allowed as it does suck to control the map and yet have to escort everything. I would not be happy with this change if it were not for guard towers.

Another part of the game that many complain about - and honestly i can understand it - is that garrisons are too weak. The thing is garrisons are weak compared to an army properly deployed with hero bonuses. This is actually good for the vast majority of players though - it means we can raid guard towers and even 'whales' if you are vaguely close in level to them OR if you coordinate with multiple players.

It seems like Lillith are pushing for the game to be more about destroying cities and constantly fighting rather then one kingdom just winning and sitting pretty with their indestructible garrisons.

Now another change that is being pushed is stronger heroes - and i can understand a lot of peoples negative reaction to this - but to me it seems like a really good change. This will make garrisons even easier for people to destroy and make the game even more aggressive.

Don't get me wrong i think this game still has MASSIVE issues that need addressing, honestly the biggest one being communication from the devs on why they are making these changes. I just wanted to offer a different opinion on the recent changes from someone who is fighting very hard on his server and enjoying it.

For reference i am on the first merged server - my original was 14


I apologise if this is not written in the most coherent of manners - English is my first language but i suck at communicating.
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Re: This game just got fun...

Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:18 pm

+1 for everything
i may add , migration changes are also reallly good
and some of the current events were also fun and gave us a good time + good rewards
 
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Re: This game just got fun...

Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:24 pm

Dude I am not sure why I had to read all this nonsense. You are having good time raiding easy bots while sitting in dead merged realm which is clearly dominated by yellow. Its obvious that nobody will revenge anything :lol: You come touch my towers (i have 6 towers all linked to house) and I will be knockin on your wall in less than 10 minutes. I will also be sending a thank-you note for helping me collect all these resources without spending tower points. You can prove me wrong by going skarn and raiding yellow towers :o
Otherwise last updated were very good for dead servers with 1 color domination aka farmvile.
 
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Re: This game just got fun...

Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:30 pm

Chillblaze wrote:
Dude I am not sure why I had to read all this nonsense. You are having good time raiding easy bots while sitting in dead merged realm which is clearly dominated by yellow. Its obvious that nobody will revenge anything :lol: You come touch my towers (i have 6 towers all linked to house) and I will be knockin on your wall in less than 10 minutes. I will also be sending a thank-you note for helping me collect all these resources without spending tower points. You can prove me wrong by going skarn and raiding yellow towers :o
Otherwise last updated were very good for dead servers with 1 color domination aka farmvile.


You think our realm is dead? Ok so you have proven you know nothing about the game. Literally over 100 players fighting last night and we managed to control all the whales. I guess you are someone who just looks at colors on a map and thinks thats all there is to a game? Maybe a children's book is more suited to you then a computer game.

Also i am in Skarn - i am surprised you have no idea who i am if you are on our server. The king of Kings constantly get annoyed at me in world chat and post replays of the few times they managed to beat me in a fight.
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Re: This game just got fun...

Fri Jan 12, 2018 1:00 am

You realize that attacking guard towers opens you up to revenges still right? It's not in the attacker list but it's still shows in the house activity log. Very easy for organized houses to brutalize anyone that attacks anything still.
 
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Re: This game just got fun...

Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:10 am

Yes, but that was always the case, and it is way cheaper to farm a ton of guard tower in a short time and shield for 24 hours(vs a really active houses even less)afterwards to be safe with your resources than to shield for 3 days. And making it impossible to revenge at all doesnt seem like the way to go.
 
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Re: This game just got fun...

Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:33 am

If shield is still 100 Linari for 8 hours, it would cost you 800 Linari (assuming one free shield) to make attacks that can't be revenged. That is pretty darn expensive and your whole garrison will be gone to heal, so you won't be able to make any follow up attacks unless you shield even more / until your garrison is rebuilt. Sharing of revenge attacks really needs to go until they figure out some better way to handle revenge attacks.
 
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Re: This game just got fun...

Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:44 am

Kryton13 wrote:
Now another change that is being pushed is stronger heroes - and i can understand a lot of peoples negative reaction to this - but to me it seems like a really good change. This will make garrisons even easier for people to destroy and make the game even more aggressive.

What change are you talking about? Can you give more information about it?
 
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Re: This game just got fun...

Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:13 am

TSSR wrote:
Kryton13 wrote:
Now another change that is being pushed is stronger heroes - and i can understand a lot of peoples negative reaction to this - but to me it seems like a really good change. This will make garrisons even easier for people to destroy and make the game even more aggressive.

What change are you talking about? Can you give more information about it?

hero basic abilitys will go up to 10/9 (lvl 45,50)and the ulti will go up to 6/5(lvl 45)
And you can give them 80 instead of 50 bonus ability points.
 
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Re: This game just got fun...

Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:19 pm

His server is alliance locked lol, sounds "fun"

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