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BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:50 pm

I'd like to start a discussion regarding best in slot (BiS) items for each hero. This may vary slightly depending on what race you are or if you're trying to be creative with a specific skill however this discussion is primarily for the human race and for minmaxing.

We know flawless void items are better than it's normal counterpart so we won't be specifying flawless next to every item as it should just be assumed.

List below is work in progress and will be updated with the input of others.

Avalon
Weapon - Blessed Elvenblade / Commander's Claymore
Banner - Imperial Banner
Headpiece - Auroral Visor
Armor - Auroral Chestguard
Trinket - Hand of Wisdom
Trinket - Golden Goblet

Avril
Staff - Frostborn Scepter
Cloak - Resplendent Mantle
Headpiece - Mage's Cap
Robe - Resplendent Vestment
Trinket - Ancient Crystal
Trinket - Zen Cauldron

Bane
Weapon -
Weapon - Skull Crusher
Headpiece - Helm of Valor
Armor - Chestguard of Valor
Trinket -
Trinket -

Cleo
Staff -
Cloak - Resplendent Mantle
Headpiece - Resplendent Diadem
Robe - Resplendent Vestment
Trinket -
Trinket -

Elena
Weapon - Blessed Elvenblade / Commander's Claymore
Banner - Auroral Standard
Headpiece - Auroral Visor
Armor - Commander's Brigandine
Trinket - Wayfarer's Lantern for PVP, otherwise Hand of Wisdom
Trinket - Jade Bracelet if using Calvary, otherwise Hand of Wisdom

Gafgar
Weapon -
Weapon -
Headpiece - Helm of Valor
Armor - Chestguard of Valor
Trinket -
Trinket -

Gan
Staff - Spiritborn Scepter
Tome - Codex of Redemption
Headpiece - Burgonet of Redemption
Robe - Raiment of Redemption
Trinket - Zen Cauldron (Does Gan have skill trinkets that are better?)
Trinket - Zen Cauldron (Does Gan have skill trinkets that are better?)

Gazul
Staff -
Cloak - Abyssal Shroud
Headpiece - Abyssal Visage
Robe - Abyssal Gambeson
Tome -
Trinket - Wailing Ornament

Grimms
Weapon - Commaner's Claymore
Banner - Auroral Banner / Underworld Banner when sieging
Headpiece - Auroral Visor
Armor - Auroral Chestguard
Trinket - Hand of Wisdom
Trinket - Hand of Wisdom

Jacques
Weapon - Moonbow (random craft version, 20% crit hit chance)
Weapon - Swiftstrike Dagger
Headpiece - Frenetic Steam Kabuto
Armor - Frenetic Chestpiece
Trinket - Soul Blade
Trinket - Soul Blade

Mako
Weapon - Swiftstrike Dagger
Bow - Stormlight Arbalest
Headpiece - Stormlight Diadem
Armor - Stormlight Chestpiece
Trinket - Soul Blade
Trinket - Soul Blade

Nora
Weapon - Aeronaut Mallet
Weapon - Heartpiercer
Headpiece - Aeronaut Spiked Cap
Armor - Aeronaut Jacket
Trinket - Soul Blade
Trinket - Soul Blade
(Nora is built purely for siege - otherwise equip like Jacques)

Rose
Staff -
Tome - Codex of Redemption
Headpiece - Burgonet of Redemption
Robe - Raiment of Redemption
Trinket -
Trinket -

Rufio
Weapon - Longsword of Valor
Weapon -
Headpiece - Helm of Valor
Armor - Chestguard of Valor
Trinket -
Trinket -

Tiadrin
Weapon - Holy Grail
Shield - Aegis of Glory
Headpiece - Greathelm of Glory
Armor - Chestplate of Glory
Trinket - Hand of Wisdom
Trinket - Hand of Wisdom

Vallari
Staff -
Cloak - Resplendent Mantle
Headpiece - Resplendent Diadem
Robe - Resplendent Vestment
Trinket -
Trinket -

Vega
Staff - Justice Rod to get Favor off quickly or Scarab Scepter for pure healing... undecided / wielders choice.
Tome - Sacred Tome for PVP otherwise Codex of Redemption
Headpiece - Burgonet of Redemption
Robe - Raiment of Redemption
Trinket - Visith's Necklace (+1 Favor of Sungod)
Trinket - Zen Cauldron

Virion
Weapon - Blessed Elvenblade / Judgment Greaves / Commander's Claymore
Shield - Aegis of Glory
Headpiece - Greathelm of Glory
Armor - Chestplate of Glory
Trinket - Jewel of Omnipotence (+1 Swordsmen Mastery)
Trinket - Magic Prism (+1 Crusader Resurrection)

Wraxius
Staff -
Cloak - Resplendent Mantle
Headpiece - Resplendent Diadem
Robe - Resplendent Vestment
Trinket -
Trinket -

Yip
Staff - Justice Rod
Tome - Codex of Redemption
Headpiece - Burgonet of Redemption
Robe - Raiment of Redemption
Trinket - Hand of Wisdom
Trinket - Hand of Wisdom
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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:14 pm

Wiluven wrote:
I'd like to start a discussion regarding best in slot (BiS) items for each hero. This may vary slightly depending on what race you are or if you're trying to be creative with a specific skill however this discussion is primarily for the human race and for minmaxing.

We know flawless void items are better than it's normal counterpart so we won't be specifying flawless next to every item as it should just be assumed.

List below is work in progress and will be updated with the input of others.

Avalon
Weapon - Commander's Claymore
Banner - Auroral Standard (is Imperial Banner for +1 Archery Mastery better?)
Headpiece - Auroral Visor
Armor - Auroral Chestguard
Trinket - Hand of Wisdom
Trinket - Ardent Aura

Avril
Staff - frost staff or tag staff
Cloak - Resplendent Mantle
Headpiece - Resplendent Diadem (is Mage's cap for +1 Gifted Mage better?)
Robe - Resplendent Vestment
Trinket - any bonus magic trinket
Trinket - (Ancient Crystal for +1 Rapid Cast?)

Bane
Weapon - the damage reduction weapon
Weapon - Skull crusher
Headpiece - Helm of Valor
Armor - Chestguard of Valor
Trinket - the stamina trinket x2
Trinket -

Cleo
Staff - magic bonus staff
Cloak - Resplendent Mantle
Headpiece - Resplendent Diadem
Robe - Resplendent Vestment
Trinket - magic trinket
Trinket -

Elena
Weapon - holy grail weapon/claymore if you dont have one
Banner - Auroral Standard
Headpiece - Auroral Visor
Armor - Auroral Chestguard
Trinket - hand of wisdom propably
Trinket - (Jade Bracelet for +1 Calvary Specialist?)

Gafgar
Weapon -
Weapon -
Headpiece - Helm of Valor
Armor - Chestguard of Valor
Trinket -
Trinket -

Gan
Staff -
Tome - Codex of Redemption
Headpiece - Burgonet of Redemption
Robe - Raiment of Redemption
Trinket -
Trinket -

Gazul
Staff -
Cloak - Abyssal Shroud
Headpiece - Abyssal Visage
Robe - Abyssal Gambeson
Mantle -
Trinket -
(Gazul doesnt have two trinkets btw)

Grimms
Weapon - General set items for command for siege damage bonus or stack might items for shot gun suppression fire
Banner -
Headpiece -
Armor -
Trinket -
Trinket -

Jacques
Weapon - Moon Bow (random craft verion is weapon not bow)
Weapon - Swiftstrike Dagger
Headpiece - Frenetic Steam Kabuto
Armor - Frenetic Chestpiece
Trinket - the +16 might trinket x2
Trinket -

Mako
Weapon - Swiftstrike or moonbow
Bow - Stormlight Arbalest
Headpiece - Stormlight Diadem
Armor - Stormlight Chestpiece
Trinket - +16 might trinket x2
Trinket -

Nora
Weapon - Stack might items
Weapon -
Headpiece - Frenetic Steam Kabuto
Armor - Frenetic Chestpiece
Trinket -
Trinket -

Rose
Staff -
Tome - Codex of Redemption
Headpiece - Burgonet of Redemption
Robe - Raiment of Redemption
Trinket -
Trinket -

Rufio
Weapon - Longsword of Valor
Weapon -
Headpiece - Helm of Valor
Armor - Chestguard of Valor
Trinket -
Trinket - Same items as Bane basically

Tiadrin
Weapon - Holy Grail
Shield - Aegis of Glory
Headpiece - Greathelm of Glory
Armor - Chestplate of Glory
Trinket - Hand of widsom
Trinket - Hand of Wisdom

Vallari
Staff -
Cloak - Resplendent Mantle
Headpiece - Resplendent Diadem (is Mage's cap for +1 Gifted Mage better?)
Robe - Resplendent Vestment
Trinket -
Trinket -

Vega
Staff - Justice Rod
Tome - Codex of Redemption
Headpiece - Burgonet of Redemption
Robe - Raiment of Redemption
Trinket - Visith's Necklace (+1 Favor of Sungod)
Trinket -

Virion
Weapon -
Shield - Aegis of Glory
Headpiece - Greathelm of Glory
Armor - Chestplate of Glory
Trinket - Jewel of Omnipotence (+1 Swordsmen Mastery)
Trinket - Magic Prism (+1 Crusader Resurrection)

Wraxius
Staff -
Cloak - Resplendent Mantle
Headpiece - Resplendent Diadem
Robe - Resplendent Vestment
Trinket -
Trinket -
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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:45 pm

^ Updated with your suggestions however I did not include the below suggestions as no names were included. I'm not looking to list 'any bonus magic trinket' as I'm trying to compile the best item.

Thanks for helping add to the list!

Avril
Staff - frost staff or tag staff
Trinket - any bonus magic trinket

Bane
Weapon - the damage reduction weapon
Trinket - the stamina trinket x2
Trinket -

Cleo
Staff - magic bonus staff
Trinket - magic trinket
Trinket -

Nora
Weapon - Stack might items
Weapon -
Staff - magic bonus staff
Trinket - magic trinket
Trinket -

Nora
Weapon - Stack might items
Weapon -
 
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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:32 am

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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:07 am

Personally, I wouldn't put too much on Avril's Rapid Casting because if you cast Blizzard first then cast another of her spells on cooldown it will cut her channeling animation and you've missed like 3-4 Blizzard spikes from dropping. Which I think Lilith needs to fix.
 
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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:18 am

Avalon
the +1 on archers is 100% better than the other thing, it is not that important to use all 3 pieces of that set, would use the other 2 just for the stats. And i would use the claymore on someone else and put Blessed Elvenblade(15 command 5 might) on that spot instead.

Elena
Use the cavalary +1 AND the saving lives +1 as trinkets.
I would also rather use the magic resistance +1 armor
and about the weapon, for the claymore its the same as for avalon and what is that "Holy Grail"? i would also just use blessed elvenblade here.

Gazul(for human/dwarf)
i think there is an item that gives +1 on the Ult of Gazul, use that and fill all left spots with as much magic as you can get.

Virion
weapon: If you use swordsman a lot go for something with high command(blessed elvenblade), if you dont just put Might and Stamina on that spot as much as you can, Sultan's fist would be a good fit.

Since Grimms(for human)is really just about the siege spell i would put claymore on him and stack command on all the other spots, he would be a good hero to use 3 piece auroral set on. Just dont waste a thought about putting something with might on him for the supressive fire, that spell shouldnt be used.
 
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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:23 pm

Avalon
Weapon - blessed evenblade
Banner - imperial banner
Headpiece - Auroral Visor
Armor - Auroral Chestguard
Trinket - golden goblet
Trinket - horn of lost heroes
( max command / effect items)

Avril
Staff - frostborn scepter
Cloak - Resplendent Mantle
Headpiece - mage cap
Robe - prophet cloak
Trinket - moonstone
Trinket - ancient crystal
(max magic / effect items)

Bane (dont use him but would stack stamina and dmg reduction weapon + any effect item thats worth it if he has any)

Cleo (dont use her but would stack magic and any effect item thats worth it if he has any)

Elena
Weapon - blessed evenblade
Banner - Auroral Standard
Headpiece - Auroral Visor
Armor - commander brigandine
Trinket - horn of lost heroes (wayfarer lantern depending on the situation)
Trinket - jade bracelet

Gafgar (dont use him )

Gan
Staff - spiritborn scepter
Tome - Codex of Redemption
Headpiece - Burgonet of Redemption
Robe - Raiment of Redemption
Trinket - moonstone
Trinket - moonstone
(if he has an item for earthquake use it)

Gazul(dont use him)

Grimms
Weapon - commander claymore
Banner - auroral banner (underworld banner during siege or destroying walls)
Headpiece - auroral visor
Armor - Auroral Chestguard
Trinket - horn of lost heroes
Trinket - horn of lost heroes
(could go for armor with supressive +1, and might trinkets)

Jacques
Weapon - frenetic ion cannon
Weapon - Swiftstrike Dagger
Headpiece - Frenetic Steam Kabuto
Armor - Frenetic Chestpiece
Trinket - ring of ininite
Trinket - Soul Blade
(i use frenetic ion cannon , cause it seems a waste to have another one , but both sultan fist , heartpiercer and judgment greaves are good options)
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Mako
Weapon - Swiftstrike Dagger
Bow - Stormlight Arbalest
Headpiece - Stormlight Diadem
Armor - Stormlight Chestpiece
Trinket - Soul Blade
Trinket - Soul Blade

Nora
Weapon - aeronaut mallet
Weapon - heartpiercer
Headpiece - aeronaut spiked cap
Armor - aeronaut jacket
Trinket - soul blade
Trinket - Soul Blade

Rose (dont use her)


Rufio (dont use him)

Tiadrin (one day one day but for now i have no experience with her)

Vallari ( dont use her but would stack magic , fire dmg from weapon and effect items if there is any good one)

Vega
Staff - scarab scepter
Tome - Codex of Redemption (sacred tome give enough skill points)
Headpiece - Burgonet of Redemption
Robe - prophet cloak
Trinket - Visith's Necklace
Trinket - moonstone

Virion
Weapon - judgment greaves
Shield - Aegis of Glory
Headpiece - Greathelm of Glory
Armor - Chestplate of Glory
Trinket - Jewel of Omnipotence (hand of wisdom if not using swordman)
Trinket - Magic Prism (hand of wisdom if not using swordman)

Wraxius (dont use him but stack magic)

yip
weapon-justice rod
Tome-codex of redemption
Headpiece-burgonet of redemption
Robe-raiment of redemption
Trinket-hand of wisdom
Trinket-hand of wisdom

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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:52 pm

iphit wrote:
horn of lost heroes

isnt hand of wisdom straight up better?
Horn of lost Heros is 6 Stamina and 10 Command right?
Hand of Wisdom is 8 Stamina and 10 Command as well as 5 Magic.
Might be different when they are flawless though.

And Suppressive fire stops you from casting vega heal for 1-2 seconds at the start of the fight because of the thing showing up when an ability is beeing activated, thats why i wouldnt put points in that at all, it sucks, so also no might for Grimms.
 
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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Tue Oct 31, 2017 1:54 pm

Ok you are right , thats weird i could swear horn was better in something xD
I dont use supressive fire but if you use justice rod in yip , you start with yip before grimms -> grimms -> vega or jacques
 
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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:01 pm

is yip even available on normal server?

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