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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:54 pm

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Personally, I wouldn't put too much on Avril's Rapid Casting because if you cast Blizzard first then cast another of her spells on cooldown it will cut her channeling animation and you've missed like 3-4 Blizzard spikes from dropping. Which I think Lilith needs to fix.


Avril with 5/4 rapid cast is so you can get tag off right away to snipe Jacques
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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:00 pm

Zinek wrote:
Shu wrote:
Personally, I wouldn't put too much on Avril's Rapid Casting because if you cast Blizzard first then cast another of her spells on cooldown it will cut her channeling animation and you've missed like 3-4 Blizzard spikes from dropping. Which I think Lilith needs to fix.


Avril with 5/4 rapid cast is so you can get tag off right away to snipe Jacques

Does tag share the same cooldown with ordinary spells/skills?
 
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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Tue Oct 31, 2017 5:11 pm

Shu wrote:
Zinek wrote:
Shu wrote:
Personally, I wouldn't put too much on Avril's Rapid Casting because if you cast Blizzard first then cast another of her spells on cooldown it will cut her channeling animation and you've missed like 3-4 Blizzard spikes from dropping. Which I think Lilith needs to fix.


Avril with 5/4 rapid cast is so you can get tag off right away to snipe Jacques

Does tag share the same cooldown with ordinary spells/skills?



Sadly yes
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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:32 pm

Shu wrote:
Personally, I wouldn't put too much on Avril's Rapid Casting because if you cast Blizzard first then cast another of her spells on cooldown it will cut her channeling animation and you've missed like 3-4 Blizzard spikes from dropping. Which I think Lilith needs to fix.


I actually didn't know this. Thanks and Noted!

Destination wrote:
Avalon
the +1 on archers is 100% better than the other thing, it is not that important to use all 3 pieces of that set, would use the other 2 just for the stats. And i would use the claymore on someone else and put Blessed Elvenblade(15 command 5 might) on that spot instead.


Agreed and noted.

Destination wrote:
Elena
Use the cavalary +1 AND the saving lives +1 as trinkets.
I would also rather use the magic resistance +1 armor
and about the weapon, for the claymore its the same as for avalon and what is that "Holy Grail"? i would also just use blessed elvenblade here.


Agreed and noted with the caveat that saving lives trinket for PVP and Hand of Wisdom otherwise. On 'dead servers', saving lives isn't useful.

Destination wrote:
Gazul(for human/dwarf)
i think there is an item that gives +1 on the Ult of Gazul, use that and fill all left spots with as much magic as you can get.


I actually haven't seen this item yet. Have a name?

Destination wrote:
Virion
weapon: If you use swordsman a lot go for something with high command(blessed elvenblade), if you dont just put Might and Stamina on that spot as much as you can, Sultan's fist would be a good fit.


Noted!

Will work through Iphit's suggestions after Halloween stuff :)

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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:20 am

iphit wrote:
Avalon
Weapon - blessed evenblade
Banner - imperial banner
Headpiece - Auroral Visor
Armor - Auroral Chestguard
Trinket - golden goblet
Trinket - hand of wisdom
( max command / effect items)


Noted. Actually had 'ardent aura' listed instead of golden goblet :)

iphit wrote:
Avril
Staff - frostborn scepter
Cloak - Resplendent Mantle
Headpiece - mage cap
Robe - prophet cloak
Trinket - moonstone
Trinket - ancient crystal
(max magic / effect items)


What is Prophet's cloak?

Others noted.

iphit wrote:
Elena
Weapon - blessed evenblade
Banner - Auroral Standard
Headpiece - Auroral Visor
Armor - commander brigandine
Trinket - hand of wisdom (wayfarer lantern depending on the situation)
Trinket - jade bracelet


Noted.

iphit wrote:
Gan
Staff - spiritborn scepter
Tome - Codex of Redemption
Headpiece - Burgonet of Redemption
Robe - Raiment of Redemption
Trinket - moonstone
Trinket - moonstone
(if he has an item for earthquake use it)


Noted.

iphit wrote:
Grimms
Weapon - commander claymore
Banner - auroral banner (underworld banner during siege or destroying walls)
Headpiece - auroral visor
Armor - Auroral Chestguard
Trinket - horn of lost heroes
Trinket - horn of lost heroes
(could go for armor with supressive +1, and might trinkets)


Noted.

iphit wrote:
Jacques
Weapon - frenetic ion cannon
Weapon - Swiftstrike Dagger
Headpiece - Frenetic Steam Kabuto
Armor - Frenetic Chestpiece
Trinket - ring of ininite
Trinket - Soul Blade
(i use frenetic ion cannon , cause it seems a waste to have another one , but both sultan fist , heartpiercer and judgment greaves are good options)
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I think you should replace your frenetic with a moonbow. +20% chance to crit is vastly superior to the 10ish strength you gain with frenetic.

I don't think Ring of Infinite (Expanded capacity) effects Jacques himself so don't think this is worthwhile over another Soul Blade for a human army.

iphit wrote:
Mako
Weapon - Swiftstrike Dagger
Bow - Stormlight Arbalest
Headpiece - Stormlight Diadem
Armor - Stormlight Chestpiece
Trinket - Soul Blade
Trinket - Soul Blade


Noted.

iphit wrote:
Nora
Weapon - aeronaut mallet
Weapon - heartpiercer
Headpiece - aeronaut spiked cap
Armor - aeronaut jacket
Trinket - soul blade
Trinket - Soul Blade


Dedicated siege hero -- noted.

iphit wrote:
Vega
Staff - scarab scepter
Tome - Codex of Redemption (sacred tome give enough skill points)
Headpiece - Burgonet of Redemption
Robe - prophet cloak
Trinket - Visith's Necklace
Trinket - moonstone


I question whether Scarab Scepter is better than Justice Rod but I think being that it's a difficult decision, will add both for the time being. Would be interesting to hear others opinions on this.

What is Prophet's Cloak?

Others noted.



iphit wrote:
Virion
Weapon - judgment greaves
Shield - Aegis of Glory
Headpiece - Greathelm of Glory
Armor - Chestplate of Glory
Trinket - Jewel of Omnipotence (hand of wisdom if not using swordman)
Trinket - Magic Prism (hand of wisdom if not using swordman)


Interesting choice of weapon ... I don't hate it!

iphit wrote:
yip
weapon-justice rod
Tome-codex of redemption
Headpiece-burgonet of redemption
Robe-raiment of redemption
Trinket-hand of wisdom
Trinket-hand of wisdom


Not available on my server - noted.
 
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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Wed Nov 01, 2017 1:14 am

As both the -2 second cooldown and +20% heal are important on Vega to get both you have to use the epic 'Eldritch' set. It's definitely not ideal in terms of stats but still worth it imo.
 
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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:51 am

Sparkles wrote:
As both the -2 second cooldown and +20% heal are important on Vega to get both you have to use the epic 'Eldritch' set. It's definitely not ideal in terms of stats but still worth it imo.


I'm not quite prepared to put that down as BiS just yet but that is most certainly interesting. Eldritch + Justice Rod but you'd lose quite a few stats. Certainly you could make some of that up by proc'ing a flawless Eldritch set and wouldn't be too terrible expensive to do as it's only 150 alchemy stones per attempt.
 
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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:22 am

Wiluven wrote:
i think there is an item that gives +1 on the Ult of Gazul, use that and fill all left spots with as much magic as you can get.


I actually haven't seen this item yet. Have a name?
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I dont have the item, but im looking for it. Will tell you if i find it.I saw it in the shop once before i needed it.
 
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Re: BiS Items (Void Gear Discussion)

Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:22 am

Wiluven wrote:
i think there is an item that gives +1 on the Ult of Gazul, use that and fill all left spots with as much magic as you can get.

I actually haven't seen this item yet. Have a name?

I dont have the item, but im looking for it. Will tell you if i find it.I saw it in the shop once before i needed it.[/quote]

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